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Jessica: I made this
Gigi: Yeah, I'm not saying that in a way we're it's like, not trying to stop people from getting into [inaudible 11:00] too.
Jessica: Well, I understand.
Gigi: Or anything. I don't discourage that. If people are into look like [inaudible 11:08] for can't get into it, but it was just like, at the time just because of the meaning it had for me at the time, it was just it felt disheartening then.
Jessica: I took a class in college where we made wearable art and I think I could understand where you're coming from with that perspective. You put pieces of yourself into it and so when you were wearing it, or when you're walking a specific style for you in that time, it was a reflection of what was maybe going on inside.
Jessica: And it's like you fought for that like that's -
Jessica: And when you see someone else wearing it, I could understand how that might feel cheapens because-
Jessica: You fought for that.
Gigi: Yeah, and then aside from that, there's also LA is LA [inaudible 12:03] so there's maybe a couple people that were doing the thing I just talked about, but it was mainly like a lot of people that are super into like getting classes like a model for some huge modeling agency or being on some random TV, just like tons of random shit like that where it was like "What?!"
Gigi: I don't know, and then just a difference---there's a lot of differences between LA and Oregon and I didn't really noticed any of the things about LA until I moved here like, everyone there is kind of mean and it's not like people are just like mean people. It's just like that's sudden reaction people tend to have for whatever reason.
Jessica: Is it maybe more competitive because everyone -
Gigi: Oh yeah.
Jessica: - wear roles and things like that.
Gigi: No, it's definitely a really competitive feeling city and it's definitely like, you're not on the same path as me, just throw you away to the curb, whatever or like I'm progressing and growing and you're not growing at the same rate as me so I think we just need to not be friends anymore even though some of you have been friends with for like 10 years.
Jessica: Oh, wow!
Jessica: I hope that's not everyone's experience.
Gigi: I hope not either but I don't know. LA is just---like a lot of people are trying to get somewhere, and not everyone's doing it in a way that's necessarily conscious.
Jessica: Yeah, it's just the downside of the place maybe.
Gigi: Yeah, I mean, there's a point of which I understand. There's a point of which I'm---there's times where I missed it too. Sometimes, I missed the push to do more but yeah, the other thing that's funny is no one really talks to each other. If you go out to a bar or a club or something in LA, you're most likely not going to talk to anyone the entire night, except for maybe if you happen to know a couple people there or if you showed up with people, maybe that's who you'll talk to. Usually, if you show up with people, that's who you'll be spending the rest of the night with, and anyone else that you know, you'll see for like five minutes and other than that, people just don't really talk.
Jessica: Where is it in Oregon, you've made best friends with four people, two drinks in.
Gigi: Yeah, no, exactly. When I moved here, and I was pulling all this stuff out of my moving truck, you know, small person, lots of stuff and usually, in LA it's just like, I don't know. No one really say anything about it, or if anything, it would be like, you might couple of people, "Get out of my way!" or "You're taking up this parking spot." Where here, I'm trying to move all this stuff when I look five, not five yeah maybe huge exaggeration, but I literally had three people offering to help me carry stuff all the way up into the building. I was like "What the hell?!"
Jessica: [inaudible 15:21] my apartment.
Gigi: Yeah, people are nice here. People talk to each other. Usually, I wear---like I always try to make sure I wear headphones with cords so that way, people don't talk to me.
Jessica: I do that if I need time away from other people, I'll pretend I am busy.
Gigi: Yeah and usually that's because in LA, no one's really going to talk to you on the street, unless some random person that quite frankly don't really want talking to you. Here, I'll be wearing headphones and someone starts saying something to me and I got really freaked out and then it's someone being like, "Oh my god! I love your shoes, your outfit is so cute." I'm just like, thank you. I feel like [inaudible 16:05]
Jessica: That's what Anastasia has said because she lived in LA for a little bit and she said, I came to Oregon and people are like, "Hello! I like your eyeshadow today" and she's like, "Why are you complimenting me right now?"
Gigi: Yeah, no. It's definitely a lot friendlier here and I think that's partially because there's lost of that kind of competitive energy. In LA, it feels...it's like I've had friends where it's just like, I haven't tried to be competitive with them, but they have thought I've been trying to be or they think I need to be better than like that, that I feel as if I need to be better than them or that it's something it's like I don't want that at all, I just want friends. I just want friends, and I know we have a similar look and we're both into the same things but that doesn't mean I'm trying to compete with you, that's just means that I'm happy that you're my friend because we have similar interests.
Jessica: You're like, I was bonding, but okay.
Gigi: Yeah. I talk about myself a little bit too much sometimes, but-
Jessica: Who doesn't?
Gigi: It happens. Yeah, it happens.
Jessica: That's just a person thing. Sometimes I'm like, did I talk about myself too much today? I guess you kind of answered this then, when you were younger, did you know you wanted to be creative or were you kind of just like, I'll probably just work in an office?
Gigi explains when they first started to realize the creative world was for them
Gigi: Oh, I totally knew I have to be creative. The idea like....so growing up, I started refusing to let my mom dressed me when I was two years old. It all really started for me with fashion kind of and my mom used to be a painter and so there's always paintings around and she has all these art books and it's like -