Jaelyn and Jessica talk about facing emotional and mental challenges during the Covid-19 Pandemic
Jessica: Yeah, it really is, and I just appreciate just how artists and straightforward and just authentically you that you are. That's why I was so excited to interview you because I was like, this is gonna be a great conversation because there's so many different perspectives out in the world and I think that you have a very unique one just on bravery because it's hard. It's hard to go online, especially in the community that I'm in and be like, yeah, I'm a Christian so God like, you know, but I think you say it so beautifully is we're all on a journey and I've gone through a journey and you've gone through a journey where I can go on media and say that, you know?
Jessica: - and there's questions that you got to ask, and only you can find the answer to those questions. I can't tell you what the answer is, you can't tell them what the answer is. That to our listeners is you can't pierce yourself. You're surrounded by temptations right now, you can't. A lot of people don't recommend dyeing your hair right now. No time for chemistry experience. I experiment, but -
Jaelyn: The last people are and I'm getting a kick out of it so -
Jessica: I mean, I did so but I guess that actually wraps it up right there with me dyeing my own hair is this is my body, it was my choice and I had to leave that question for myself, and maybe it would go absolutely terrible and I would be bald right now and maybe it would go pretty good, and there'd be pretty stoked about it, but unless I did it, I wouldn't really know the answer to that.
Jessica: But we're in quarantine right now, that is the circumstances today and a lot of our vices are taken away, and a lot of new ones are presented in front of us and it's really a time to wrestle with that sense of self and I guess I just want to encourage everyone who is feeling a little bit down right now and a little bit depressed and because I've been reading all the forums that I'm a part of, and a lot of people, they're having a hard time getting out of bed, they're having a really hard time going for a walk. Some of the interviews I'll have for like, this was like the highlight of my day, was talking to somebody, even a stranger, and I think I just encourage all of them and I'm encouraging our---you our listener, to start being okay with you, and just do it one step at a time, and that comes from, accepting the mistakes that you made that day.
Jessica: Yeah. If you are trying to do healthy living and you ate something that you were like, I was doing so good and I'm not supposed to do that, don't punish yourself for it. It's not bad, you made that choice, own it. I think that should be with any choice-you make the choice and own it, stand behind it. That was something that I decided a long time ago is that anything I did, I would be okay if it came out about me because I stand by that choice and to be ashamed by that choice is to give the power, even the wrong ones. I think that we can learn from each other because we all have questions and I can learn from you and you can learn from me and I can learn from you listener if I interview you next, and by seeing each other's experiences and seeing each other's questions, it'll lead to new questions for us, much like this interview that didn't go according to my questions at all.
Jaelyn: You should call me back, so [inaudible 41:12].
Jessica: I will. We'll do it again.
Jaelyn: Part two.
Jessica: Yeah, I don't know. Before I let you go for the day, I just wanted to leave our listeners with that piece of information that feel free to be yourself right now, especially when you don't have to worry about your insecurities of having a crowd watching. This is your time with you and it's a gift. Even if it looks a little scary and it doesn't feel like a gift all the time and it feels really hard, it is a gift. You are stuck with yourself so that you can learn to love yourself, however that looks like.
Jaelyn: Yeah. Oh, that's so true, Jess. I would say, this process of quarantine is going to do something to you. It's going to wreck you or it can help you become who you were meant to be and I even seen--- guys this quarantine is not easy for anybody. It's hard for everybody and it's been hard for me too, like I'm right there with you, but because I've chosen to become during this process instead of the alternative to that. I've experienced joy and I've experienced pain, but like you said Jess, it's taking that and like putting end with it and being like, this is what makes it bittersweet, you can't have the sweet without the bitter and vice versa, we need both and this season, we're learning to become us. Become you. Take the challenge if you are feeling down. I know so many people are having a hard time getting out of bed. I see you. My husband struggle with depression for a lot of years, there's something beneath that. Get curious about it, there was for my husband and there is for you too. There is freedom and breakthrough on the other side of pain and it just takes us getting curious in becoming the person that works through adversity, the person that isn't knocked down, the person who wants to live a better life, who is making the choice to get out of bed one day and maybe not the next. It's a bunch of little choices that you don't think matter at the end of the day and that clearly is you and who you are in your experiences and there's no right or wrong to that.
Jessica: There isn't and when you reach that self-acceptance stage, because it is a stage and with every stage you might be like, yeah, I accept myself today, but tomorrow I could wake up and be like, this is it that I have bugs me. Who knows? But when you reach that stage is just every [inaudible 44:04] for no longer is like it doesn't have meaning anymore, you know? And that is something that I think a lot of people don't quite get because it's really easy to see happy people online and hear that they used to be depressed or they used to struggle. When you're sitting there crying like okay, but what about me, you know?
Jessica: But like, it is. It is so incredibly worth it just to get up and do even just one small thing that makes you feel better. The ramifications from just that one small choice is unbelievable.
Jaelyn: Like making your bed or some of you it might be making your bed in the morning, takes a minute, but it's that one small little win or it's putting your phone in the bathroom so that you have to get up and turn it off. Those little things matter.