Jessica: Oh, fun!
Riley: And I love that one. It's one of my favorites but that was the most like out of any tattoo or piercing that I've gotten, like the most painful. Hands down.
Jessica: Yeah. That was brutal.
Riley: Hands down. And I love it and it's super cute, but I mean, when I got it pierced and then when I got it changed from the barbell to the hoop, it was super painful, but now it doesn't cause me anything.
Riley: I'm so thankful because I have so many friends who you said like they're so finicky with sleeping and they get infected super quickly, but I think I have bionic ears or something so I just kept getting my ears pierced because I knew they would heal correctly.
Jessica: Yeah, well, it's a hard one to heal. Just because there's so much that can go wrong with it and, sleeping on it can just easily, you know, your pierced like this, but so many times I see people come in and they're like, "My helix is out like this." And I'm like, "Oh, no!"
Riley: No, and then okay, is there anything you can do about it when that happens, like you can't -
Jessica: You have to pull it and repierce it.
Jessica: Yeah, I know.
Jessica: People when they're like, "I don't have many piercings. I just have a couple ear." I'm like, "No, like, you have piercings like-"
Riley: [inaudible 16:02] same difference.
Jessica: Those and they take upwards of six months to even a year to heal.
Riley: Oh! I didn't know it was technically that long.
Jessica: Yeah, they take a minute.
Riley: They take. Yeah, a minute.
Jessica: A minute.
Riley: I kind of forgot because I have had these since my sophomore year in high school and so I think it like I haven't gotten any new piercings in a while so I kind of forgot how that healing process works, but it is.
Jessica: Yeah, there's just a lot of blood flow so it takes a minute longer.
Riley: Just a minute. Just like is a little minute.
Jessica: I did like what you said about growing up and feeling piercings weren't for you because I can relate to that. I grew up in a very conservative household and I mean, kind of. My dad's a pastor,
Riley: Oh, okay.
Jessica: And my mom used to be like, [inaudible 17:00] in high school, so it was definitely two ends of the spectrum where it's like this conservative homeschooled family but we were alleged to pink hair.
Jessica: But not any modifications.
Riley: Right, okay, sure.
Jessica: Just going on there, but I remember feeling very similar to you. It was this cool, awesome aesthetic and I wanted it for myself, but it felt out of reach.
Jessica: So then anytime I go into a tattoo or a piercing place, I was an invader which is a weird feeling to have.
Riley: Yeah, I get that and that's funny you say that you could have pink hair but no modifications and my mom is like the complete opposite. I've never dyed my hair and even now I'm like, Oh, I think I want to do purple or something or just the ends and she's like, no one's like, Oh, all right.
Jessica: That's so funny. I mean, you do have beautiful hair.
Riley: Thank you! I know and I'm like, ah! I have like so much. I'm such an over thinker that I'm like, if I dye it, then I'll never get back to go to the natural color and then I'll have to keep up with it. And it's all the thing, but then I see hair like yours, which is so ready and beautiful.
Jessica: I mean, it is true. You don't really go back. I'm actually a natural redhead.
Riley: Oh, really?
Jessica: I really [inaudible 18:28] So if I want any color, it has to be a colored color because I just naturally am orange so there's no coming back from that, you know, anything else is like, well, I was already discovered.
Riley: A very good way of looking at it.
Jessica: It's how to explain it to my parents. I'm already orange.
Riley: Yeah, exactly. You already have a color. It's another one,, changing it a little bit.
Jessica: It's been a minute since you've had a piercing but if you remember the process, what did you think the process was going to be like versus what it was actually like?
Riley discuss about how thoughtful is the piercing process in Avanti
Riley: Well, so I have six lobe piercings, which is what I all got at Claire's. I got all my lobe piercings done at Claire's and so when I made the switch from doing it from a gun to a needle, I had no idea what that was going to look like so when I went to Avanti, and I actually went in and they sat me down, and they're like, okay, where do you want the placement of it? And then they draw the little dot and they're like, do you like that? Do you want me to move it? It was just so thoughtful, and there was so much more energy put into it, that it actually felt like a real experience instead of I'm just going to go in and get a needle in my ear and then leave, which is what it was when I got it with the gun at Claire's and so I think just like that whole switch made me change and so it was just the thoughtfulness of it, I think and I was like, this is actually an artistic practice that these people are doing and they care about how this was going to look on me and how it's going to heal and what it's going to do so I thought that was really awesome and that's why I love starting to get pierced after that with an actual needle and going in and doing something so I was like, okay, even if I'm not completely sure with what I want, like, I know they'll be able to help me, which is what I didn't think I had it Claire's so it was like, Oh, I have to have it here and then they're just going to do it and then I am gonna be done, you know?